Michael Burry on the Last – and the Next – Financial Crisis (Part 2)

“It’s sort of like the flood’s about to happen and you’re Noah.”
― Michael Lewis, The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine


Last week in “Michael Burry on the Last – and Next – Financial Crisis, Part 1,” we summarized the causes of the 2008 financial crisis and featured a video of Dr. Michael Burry’s Chancellor’s Lecture at Vanderbilt University, “Missteps to Mayhem,” on the same topic.

This week, we examine what has – and hasn’t changed in the last 10 years, and what that means for the future, including a look into the mortgage market and Dr. Burry’s predictions.

Has Anything Changed?

Yes, some changes are positive.

As far as the mortgage industry goes, practices are safer now than in the years immediately before the subprime mortgage crisis. Lending standards are tighter. Negative amortization loans and “liars’ loans” (mortgages requiring no income and no asset verification) have gone out of style. Underwriting has changed. Borrowers must demonstrate their ability to repay mortgages.

Appraisal standards have tightened as well. Loan officers can no longer choose appraisers who will inflate values. And the big banks that crushed the economy before are no longer participating in the riskiest types of loans. While subprime lending still exists (and while there is a proper place for it in the economy), lenders that do such loans must now set aside reserves equal to 10% of the loan to protect themselves.

The percentage of Americans owning homes declined to a rate as low as 63.4% in 2015, up from a high that bounced just above and below 69% immediately prior to the subprime crisis. In 2007, a migrant worker earning less than $20k a year could qualify for a $600k mortgage. Today, not everyone can qualify to own a home.

In some ways, little has changed.

Consumer spending is still relied upon for create economic growth, and ever-expanding debt is still relied upon to create more money in the economy for consumer spending.

Mortgages continue to be sold off and securitized, just not with such reckless abandon. Some see it as an ominous sign that Goldman Sachs, at the center of the previous crash, is peddling a new version of CDOs, or collateralized debt obligations, backed by credit default swaps. According to Bloomberg.com in a February 2015 article, “Goldman Sachs Hawks CDOs Tainted by Credit Crisis Under New Name,” they are now referred to as a “bespoke tranche opportunity.”

Mortgage interest rates seem to keep hitting impossible lows, driving some housing markets to new highs. A December, 2015 forecast in TheMortgageReports.com stated, “Because mortgage rates have dropped, today’s home buyers can afford 7% ‘more home’ as compared to the start of last year. If you could afford a $400,000 home last year, this year, you can afford a home for near $428,000.”

Something else that remains unchanged: banks and other large financial institutions continue to shortchange investors through price-fixing and other scandals. The government continues to slap institutions with fines, while executives seem to be immune from prosecution.

Cheap credit rules – from real estate to the tech sector.

We have experienced rock-bottom interest rates for several years now. When rates inevitably rise, corrections can and must happen.

Real estate prices driven by very low interest rates won’t be sustained forever. And perhaps worse, business gains have been built on nearly free credit and over-exuberant company valuations. Analysts warn about the rise of “Unicorns” – technology sector startups with very high valuations (sometimes a billion dollars or more) unsupported by their fundamental finances.

Burry is Bearish

Digital Illustration of Bull and Bear

In the big-screen version of The Big Short, Christian Bale plays Dr. Michael Burry, who accurately predicted the subprime crisis while Wall Street was busy celebrating record profits. True to the script, Burry worked barefoot, listened to heavy metal, has a glass eye, and would much rather spend his time deep in research than talking with anyone.

In a December 2015 interview with New York Magazine (conducted by email), Burry stated his belief that we could be headed for another crisis:

“We are right back at it: trying to stimulate growth through easy money. It hasn’t worked, but it’s the only tool the Fed’s got. Meanwhile, the Fed’s policies widen the wealth gap, which feeds political extremism, forcing gridlock in Washington… Interest rates are used to price risk, and so in the current environment, the risk-pricing mechanism is broken. That is not healthy for an economy. We are building up terrific stresses in the system.”

Burry is not the only voice crying “bubble!” From Yale market scholar Robert Shiller to billionaire presidential wannabe, Donald Trump, to the Royal Bank of Scotland, which told investors in a January 2016 memo to get out of the stock market and “sell everything,” many are trying to warn investors. In April of 2015, we published “Is It Time to Get Out of the Stock Market?” citing analyst Jesse Columbo’s argument for a bubble.

When asked what worries him most, Burry responded, “Debt. The idea that growth will remedy our debts is so addictive for politicians, but the citizens end up paying the price. The public sector has really stepped up as a consumer of debt. The Federal Reserve’s balance sheet is leveraged 77:1. Like I said, the absurdity, it just befuddles me.”

Reflecting on Reforms

Burry is bearish as well on the prospect of major financial corporations acting responsibly. He hoped that the subprime crisis would usher in an era of personal responsibility, but instead, “we doubled down on blaming others.” Burry notes, “Borrowers were punished for their overindulgences — they lost homes and lives…. But the executives at the lenders simply got rich.” Expressing shock that the executives at the worst lenders were not punished, he adds, “But this is the nature of these things. The ones running the machine did not get punished after the dot-com bubble either….The little guy will pay for it.”

Some Good News!

Does Burry see any bright spots? Yes!

“Innovation, especially in America, is continuing at a breakneck pace, even in areas facing substantial political or regulatory headwinds. The advances in health care in particular are breathtaking — so many selfless souls are working to advance science, and this is heartening…. Americans have so much natural entrepreneurial drive. The caveat is that it is technology that should be a tool making lives better in the real world, and in line with the American spirit of getting better and better at something, whether it’s curing cancer or creating a better taxi service.”

Is Prosperity Economics the Answer?

Although Michael Burry  may be unfamiliar with the term “Prosperity Economics,” in many ways, his investment philosophy follows many of our 7 Principles of Prosperity™.

THINK from a Prosperity Mindset:

Michael Burry was a medical student facing a mountain of student debt when he started Scion Capital. At the time, he received an inheritance that he could have used to pay off his student debt. However, his mindset was focused on growth, so he used the money as seed money for his new business. Soon, his business was capitalized with millions from other investors.

Similarly, we advise our clients to focus on growth and earning rather than frugality.

SEE the Big Picture:

While many analysts and fund managers focus on picking stocks, Burry looks at trends in the economy, understanding that different sectors of the economy are related. Few realized what was happening in the mortgage industry – if they could even see it – could cause people to lose jobs and savings.

As Prosperity Economics Movement co-founder Kim D. H. Butler points out, just as stocks, bonds, mortgages, consumer spending and business credit all relate in the larger economy, so in our own personal economy, our mortgage, investments, insurance and spending “all come from the same wallet. ”


Before “the big short,” Burry was known as a savvy stock picker who could find true deals, even in a falling market. In looking for companies that represent value, Burry looks for minimal debt and strong cash flow.

Likewise, Prosperity Economics recommends that investors focus on their cash flow. More than net worth or business valuations, cash flow represents financial health.


According to Rupert Hargreaves of ValueWalk.com, Burry believes that limiting risk is “the key to long-term success.” He approaches each investment thinking “how much can I lose?” rather than the standard approach used by the majority of asset managers investments and fund managers of asking, “How much can I make?”

Although Burry is best known for his bet against the housing market, which looked like a big gamble to others (but never to him), he is not comfortable with risk. Relying on exacting research to reliably predict investment results, he does not believe in the sort of guesswork and speculation that pervades the stock market environment.

At Partners for Prosperity, we have no tolerance for loss! Prosperity Economics advocates investments you can understand and have some level of control over, such as non-correlated investments not tied to the stock market.

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13 thoughts on “Michael Burry on the Last – and the Next – Financial Crisis (Part 2)”

    1. Prosperity Thinkers

      Hi Chris,

      We are excited to hear that you enjoyed this article! Thank you for the kind complements and have a great Tuesday!

  1. According to Dr. Bury at the end of “The Big Short,” the next big area to invest in is WATER. In my mind, water and ag. go hand-in-hand. Can’t have the second w/o the first. In looking globally, it seems that China has a head start on everyone re: water investment, esp. within the 3rd world countries. I live in CA and water is a constant source of worry for us from year to year. Our water tables are so low, that they will never be replenished. I think Dr. Bury is onto something.

  2. His hunch wasn’t wrong. The markets are not down 2000+ points in the last few months. And the old stocks gaining at the moment are the newly legalized CBD and Hemo industries — agriculture.

  3. You were pretty wrong, getting out of the market in 2015 would mean missing out on 2 extraordinary years of growth. Can’t say the same about 2018/2019 though.

  4. Stewart,
    Hopefully I can articulate what I thought. I have a difficult time explaining how I look at business… But it makes sense to me.
    “Where did the money go next?” To simplify…In my opinion, aside from QE and Federal Reserve actions, there is “X” amount of dollars out there. Sure, an organization, individual, fund, etc. may lose money while investing, however, the funds have not vanished into thin air. They may have “lost” money, but another entity “found” that money. So, for example,the 07/08 crisis…a lot of individuals and institutions “lost” money, but others gained from their losses (found the lost money). Those who benefited from the down market are now looking to invest elsewhere.
    I suppose what I am trying to say is… The money is still out there, just in different hands. So, what will be the next industry, idea, or person to invest those, lost… But found, funds? My opinion was agriculture.
    In my opinion…Human psychology leads most to believe the safe bet is not when a business idea is in it’s infancy, in growth mode, or in old age… But rather when it is in it’s prime.
    I am a cattle broker and ranch manager and I am amazed at the purchases made while the market is at it’s peak. About 15 months ago I felt like the market had no where to go but down….so I stopped buying, sold most of my “trader” cows and invested those funds elsewhere until I thought the time was right to start buying again. I have not bought a cow for the past 16 – 18 months…until two weeks ago. At the peak, a young cow/calf pair was bringing $3,000 to $4,000. I have been buying truck loads all month for $1325 average, and I predict the average to be between $1000 and $1100 by year’s end. I have little to no competition at the cattle auctions. Of course 16-18 months ago a steer calf was worth $1200 and a fleshy cull cow worth almost the same. I see down markets as opportunities, most see it as a risk. When I stopped buying 16 -18 months ago everyone thought I was a fool. Now that I am buying I assume they think I am foolish. I lost several customers due to my opinion and my actions.
    Why do some see opportunity in an over priced up market? And others, few, see opportunity in a down market? Is “seeing around the corner” natural? I think it is. However, in my opinion, the gift can be fine tuned with experience, keeping emotions out of your business decisions, and doing your homework. One cannot see around the corner wth blinders on. Those blinders can come in many forms: greed, fear, uninformed, lazy, envy, and more.
    Summary: The money is still out there. What will be the next boom industry that it finances, and who will be there to pick up the pieces when it busts.
    I hope that makes sense to you. It does to me… But I have difficult time explaining my business thoughts and ideas to others.


  5. Stock market 1998, tech 2003, housing 2008….where did the money go next? Agriculture. Many similarities and a few differences. But, human psychology the same. There are only a few of us that can see around the corner.

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